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CONNS INC (CONN)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 FY2024 total revenues rose 9.3% year over year to $366.1M as Badcock contributed $68.4M; finance charges and other revenues increased 10.7% .
  • Diluted EPS was $1.75, benefitting from a $104.9M bargain purchase gain; adjusted net loss was $(1.25) per diluted share after excluding transaction fees and debt extinguishment costs .
  • Retail gross margin expanded to 38.3% in Q4 (from 33.7% a year ago), while the retail segment reported a larger operating loss given integration and one-time costs .
  • Management guided to year-over-year improvements in retail sales and profitability in FY2025 and outlined ~$50M additional cost synergies and ~$50M revenue synergies over 18 months, following ~$50M cost removal in Q4 .
  • Potential stock reaction catalysts: synergy realization from the Badcock integration and liquidity optics after a $259.4M ABS issuance with $252.6M net proceeds; Class A notes were 13x oversubscribed and Class B 9x .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Consolidated revenue growth driven by Badcock contribution: total revenue +9.3% YoY to $366.1M; Badcock added $68.4M .
  • Retail gross margin expansion: Q4 retail gross margin reached 38.3% vs. 33.7% prior year, reflecting mix and operational improvements .
  • Strategic progress and synergy plan: ~$50M costs removed in Q4; identified ~$50M additional cost synergies and ~$50M revenue synergies expected over 18 months; “we expect to experience year-over-year improvements in both retail sales and profitability throughout fiscal year 2025” .
  • Liquidity strengthened: $259.4M ABS completed in Jan 2024, $252.6M net proceeds; Class A 13x and Class B 9x oversubscribed .

Management quotes:

  • “We have removed approximately $50 million of combined expenses during the fourth quarter and we have identified over $50 million of additional cost synergies…we expect to drive over $50 million of revenue synergies…” — Norm Miller, President & CEO .
  • “I am confident that the Badcock transaction…will position us to emerge stronger…we expect to experience year-over-year improvements in both retail sales and profitability throughout fiscal year 2025.” — Norm Miller .

What Went Wrong

  • Same-store sales weakness: Conn’s same-store sales declined 14.4% from lower discretionary spending on home-related products .
  • Retail segment losses widened: Q4 retail operating loss was $(38.1)M; adjusted retail operating loss was $(21.8)M .
  • Credit costs elevated: Provision for bad debts increased to $52.5M; allowance charge on Conn’s loans rose by $7.8M .
  • SG&A intensity: Retail SG&A as percent of revenues was 45.9% in Q4 .
  • Interest expense surged: Q4 interest expense was $26.1M, up from $13.1M prior year .

Financial Results

Consolidated and Segment Metrics vs prior quarters

MetricQ2 FY2024Q3 FY2024Q4 FY2024
Total Revenues ($USD Millions)$306.906 $280.130 $366.077
Diluted EPS ($)$(1.39) $(2.11) $1.75
Operating Loss ($USD Millions)$(15.355) $(38.458) $(50.762)
Interest Expense ($USD Millions)$16.787 $22.448 $26.093
Retail Revenues ($USD Millions)$246.336 $221.354 $296.874
Retail Operating Loss ($USD Millions)$(10.419) $(24.823) $(38.104)
Retail Gross Margin (%)36.9% 33.5% 38.3%
Credit Revenues ($USD Millions)$63.091 $61.528 $70.787
Credit Operating (Loss) Income ($USD Millions)$(4.501) $(13.397) $(12.773)
Provision for Bad Debts ($USD Millions)$33.302 $39.123 $52.746

Q4 FY2024 Retail Net Sales by Category and Same-Store Trends

CategoryQ4 FY2024 Net Sales ($USD Thousands)% of TotalYoY Change ($USD Thousands)YoY % ChangeSame Store % Change
Furniture & Mattress$120,334 40.9% $34,350 +39.9% (7.8)%
Home Appliance$86,253 29.2% $(10,638) (11.0)% (20.6)%
Consumer Electronics$32,835 11.1% $(9,658) (22.7)% (27.4)%
Home Office$11,590 3.9% $1,719 +17.4% +12.1%
Other$20,783 7.0% $8,020 +62.8% +19.5%
Repair Service Agreement Commissions$21,138 7.2% $948 +4.7% (14.3)%
Service Revenues$2,043 0.7% $(222) (9.8)% N/A
Total Net Sales$294,976 100.0% $24,519 +9.1% (14.4)%

KPIs and Credit Portfolio Statistics

KPIQ2 FY2024Q3 FY2024Q4 FY2024
Total Applications Processed341,118 333,622 309,949
Weighted Avg Origination Credit Score (sales financed)623 623 619
% Applications Approved & Utilized21.5% 18.8% 22.3%
In-house Financing (% of Retail Sales)62.2% 61.1% 62.9%
Third-Party Financing (% of Retail Sales)14.1% 14.7% 14.3%
Lease-to-Own (% of Retail Sales)8.0% 8.6% 9.2%
60+ Day Delinquencies (% of portfolio carrying value)11.1% (as of July 31, 2023) 11.0% (as of Oct 31, 2023) 12.2% (as of Jan 31, 2024)
Re-aged Balance (% of portfolio carrying value)15.9% 18.1% 18.8%
Allowance for Bad Debts (% of portfolio balance)16.6% 17.4% 18.1%
Average Outstanding Customer Balance ($)$2,645 $2,661 $2,682

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Retail SalesFY2025Not providedExpect YoY improvement in retail sales Introduced directional guidance
ProfitabilityFY2025Not providedExpect YoY improvement in profitability Introduced directional guidance
Cost SynergiesNext 18 monthsNot providedAdditional ~$50M cost synergies identified New
Revenue SynergiesNext 18 monthsNot provided~$50M revenue synergies expected (credit program transition, eCommerce for Badcock, shared retail growth) New
Cost ReductionQ4 FY2024Not provided~$50M combined expenses removed in Q4 New

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

Note: The Q4 FY2024 earnings call transcript could not be retrieved due to a document access error; themes below leverage Q2–Q4 press releases.

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 & Q3 FY2024)Current Period (Q4 FY2024)Trend
Macro and consumer spendingPersistent industry headwinds; lower discretionary spending; sequential same-store improvement but still negative Continued macro challenges expected through FY2025 Ongoing headwind
eCommerce performanceRecord eCommerce: $27.2M in Q2 (+41.5% YoY) and $26.3M in Q3 (+51.0% YoY) Record annual eCommerce sales $109.3M (+38.2% YoY) Positive momentum
Credit applicationsQ2 +30.6% YoY; Q3 highest growth rate in five years (+40.6% YoY) Annual applications +21.6% YoY Improving demand funnel
Retail gross marginQ2: 36.9%; Q3: 33.5% with better mix and freight normalization Q4: 38.3%; FY2024: 35.9% (+189 bps) Improving
Integration/SynergiesBadcock announced in Q3; synergy plan outlined Integration underway; ~$50M costs removed; $50M additional cost and $50M revenue synergies targeted Accelerating integration

Management Commentary

  • “Since completing the transformative transaction with W.S. Badcock…we have removed approximately $50 million of combined expenses during the fourth quarter and…identified over $50 million of additional cost synergies…we expect to drive over $50 million of revenue synergies as we transition Badcock’s credit program to Conn’s in-house loan product, offer Conn’s successful eCommerce capabilities to Badcock’s customers, and pursue shared retail growth strategies.” — Norm Miller, President & CEO .
  • “While we expect the macro-environment to remain challenging throughout our fiscal year 2025, I am confident…we expect to experience year-over-year improvements in both retail sales and profitability throughout fiscal year 2025.” — Norm Miller .
  • Prior quarter tone: “We remain focused on…turning around our retail performance and better serving our core credit constrained customers…strong year-over-year growth in credit applications and eCommerce sales.” — Norm Miller (Q3) .
  • Prior quarter tone: “Strategic initiatives…taking hold…record quarterly eCommerce revenue…credit quality remains stable…” — Norm Miller (Q2) .

Q&A Highlights

The Q4 FY2024 earnings call transcript could not be accessed due to a retrieval error (database inconsistency), so specific Q&A highlights and any clarifications provided during the call are unavailable at this time.

Estimates Context

S&P Global consensus estimates for Q4 FY2024 were unavailable for CONN due to missing CIQ mapping, preventing retrieval of “Primary EPS Consensus Mean” and “Revenue Consensus Mean.” Values retrieved from S&P Global were unavailable for this report [SpgiEstimatesError].

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Integration is the near-term driver: Badcock contributed $68.4M to Q4 revenues, and management targets ~$50M additional cost and ~$50M revenue synergies over 18 months; cost removal of ~$50M already executed in Q4 .
  • Margin trajectory improving: Retail gross margin expanded to 38.3% in Q4 and FY2024 retail gross margin rose 189 bps to 35.9% .
  • Credit costs and leverage bear watching: Provision for bad debts elevated to $52.7M; interest expense increased to $26.1M; delinquency and re-aged metrics rose vs prior quarters .
  • Demand funnel healthier: Applications processed and financing mix indicate continued traction with core credit-constrained customers; in-house financing reached ~63% of retail sales in Q4 .
  • Liquidity optics improved: $259.4M ABS transaction generated $252.6M net proceeds; oversubscription suggests market receptivity to receivables-backed financing .
  • Near-term setup: Expect FY2025 YoY improvements in sales and profitability; execution on credit program transition at Badcock and eCommerce activation are critical to achieving revenue synergy targets .
  • Estimate context: With consensus unavailable, focus on company-communicated synergy milestones and quarterly trajectory vs Q2/Q3 reported results until S&P mapping is restored [SpgiEstimatesError].